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GT = Goku Time?
Topic Started: Mar 17 2015, 08:04 PM (2,469 Views)
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Mar 17 2015, 10:08 PM
Emmeth
Mar 17 2015, 09:19 PM
DBZAOTA482
Mar 17 2015, 09:07 PM
-Funny way of spelling Ledgic.
-....which Pan caused.
-Guess if you put that way.
-Who isn't really important.
-Still just there to buy time.
-But those dragonballs are the same ones Dende revived in the Cell Saga, and him and Piccolo aren't spiritually connected like Kami was with Piccolo. GT overlooked that for cheap drama.
- ...Cheater.
How dare you insult Pan... <_<
Alright, alright. Pan is an acquired taste, I agree.

No, the black-star dragonballs were created by the original nameless Namekian (before Kami and Piccolo split up). With both of them gone, the dragonballs are gone. Piccolo stayed dead in GT.

The dragonballs you are thinking of disappeared after Piccolo and Kami became one again. Dende just made new dragonballs around the old dragon.
They're the same dragonballs. Dende outright said it would take him ages to create a new set from scratch so instead he restored the ones that already existed.
Okay, tiny detail there. He restored both the new dragonballs and the dragon. My point still stands.
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Although Goku may not be the only focus in GT, he is certainly the primary focus.

--He is the only one who defeats the main villains.
--No other protagonist was allowed to be stronger than Goku -- Even though Super Uub was stronger, it was for a very short amount of time, which only amounted to stalling until Goku could use SSJ4.
-- When Vegeta achieves SSJ4, it only ends up being important, because he can fuse with Goku.
-- Although Pan does land some good hits on opponents, eventually she ends up in a position where she needs to be rescued by Goku.
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All they did is to buy a time for Goku by getting tjeir asses kicked. Unlike the Canon manga had all fighters a chance to fight on their own spotlight.

Freeza Arc:
1. Gohan Vs Freeza
2. Gohan, Krilin and Vegeta Vs Ginyu Force.
3. Vegeta Vs Ginyu/Jeice
4. Piccolo Vs Freeza
5. Vegeta Vs Freeza
6. Goku Vs Freeza

Cell Arc:
1. Piccolo Vs 17
2. Vegeta Vs Cell
3. Trunks Vs Cell
4. Goku Vs Cell
5. Gohan Vs Cell

Boo Arc:
1. Majin Vegeta Vs Fat Boo
2. Goku Vs Boo
3. Gotenks Vs Boo
4. Gohan Vs Boo
5. Vegito Vs Boo

A lot of canon fights had their own time unlike crap GT had all Goku time.
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Gt was overall Goku time, but Goku has been primary focus and winning the major battles since Part I of the series. This isn't anything new. The only problem with it is that Goku is pretty much 90% of the focus, with the last 10% being everybody else.
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Mar 21 2015, 11:26 AM
All they did is to buy a time for Goku by getting tjeir asses kicked. Unlike the Canon manga had all fighters a chance to fight on their own spotlight.

Freeza Arc:
1. Gohan Vs Freeza
2. Gohan, Krilin and Vegeta Vs Ginyu Force.
3. Vegeta Vs Ginyu/Jeice
4. Piccolo Vs Freeza
5. Vegeta Vs Freeza
6. Goku Vs Freeza

Cell Arc:
1. Piccolo Vs 17
2. Vegeta Vs Cell
3. Trunks Vs Cell
4. Goku Vs Cell
5. Gohan Vs Cell

Boo Arc:
1. Majin Vegeta Vs Fat Boo
2. Goku Vs Boo
3. Gotenks Vs Boo
4. Gohan Vs Boo
5. Vegito Vs Boo

A lot of canon fights had their own time unlike crap GT had all Goku time.
1. You mean the battle that ended up with Freeza curbstomping Gohan or the one where Freeza was unharmed by Gohan's best shot?
2. They were stomped in that fight
3. Killing minions, kind of like how they were killing them in the Super 17 saga
4. Piccolo ended up getting shot up like fish in a barrel
5. Vegeta was Freeza's b*** in that fight
6. But isn't that Goku time?!

1. Didn't amount to anything but stalling
2. Ended up with getting his back broken by Cell
3. Trunks just gave up the battle
4. Goku gave up
5. This one is probably one of the few times where someone other than Goku had the spotlight

1. Vegeta's suicide bomb failed as badly as Chaozu's
2. But isn't that Goku time?!
3. Failed to kill Boo and needed to be saved by Gohan
4. Got pummeled
5. A fusion does show up

I fail to see how GT is any worse than Z. Z had only three real instances where someone other than Goku did anything. Aside from that, it was them either killing minions or just getting thrashed. You just shot yourself in the foot with your examples there
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Mar 22 2015, 11:46 PM
SaiyanXjin5
Mar 21 2015, 11:26 AM
All they did is to buy a time for Goku by getting tjeir asses kicked. Unlike the Canon manga had all fighters a chance to fight on their own spotlight.

Freeza Arc:
1. Gohan Vs Freeza
2. Gohan, Krilin and Vegeta Vs Ginyu Force.
3. Vegeta Vs Ginyu/Jeice
4. Piccolo Vs Freeza
5. Vegeta Vs Freeza
6. Goku Vs Freeza

Cell Arc:
1. Piccolo Vs 17
2. Vegeta Vs Cell
3. Trunks Vs Cell
4. Goku Vs Cell
5. Gohan Vs Cell

Boo Arc:
1. Majin Vegeta Vs Fat Boo
2. Goku Vs Boo
3. Gotenks Vs Boo
4. Gohan Vs Boo
5. Vegito Vs Boo

A lot of canon fights had their own time unlike crap GT had all Goku time.
1. You mean the battle that ended up with Freeza curbstomping Gohan or the one where Freeza was unharmed by Gohan's best shot?
2. They were stomped in that fight
3. Killing minions, kind of like how they were killing them in the Super 17 saga
4. Piccolo ended up getting shot up like fish in a barrel
5. Vegeta was Freeza's b*** in that fight
6. But isn't that Goku time?!

1. Didn't amount to anything but stalling
2. Ended up with getting his back broken by Cell
3. Trunks just gave up the battle
4. Goku gave up
5. This one is probably one of the few times where someone other than Goku had the spotlight

1. Vegeta's suicide bomb failed as badly as Chaozu's
2. But isn't that Goku time?!
3. Failed to kill Boo and needed to be saved by Gohan
4. Got pummeled
5. A fusion does show up

I fail to see how GT is any worse than Z. Z had only three real instances where someone other than Goku did anything. Aside from that, it was them either killing minions or just getting thrashed. You just shot yourself in the foot with your examples there
Regarding these examples, the Z fighters may not have won some of these battles in the end, but some of the Z fighters were allowed two things that are never available in GT:

(1) Being able to have the power advantage for a considerable portion of the fight -- [Vegeta vs. Cell, Gotenks vs. Buu, Gohan vs. Buu]
(2) An even battle -- [Piccolo vs. Frieza, Piccolo vs. #17]


As for the examples where the Z fighters kill minions, the DBZ minions were probably more meaningful than the GT ones (Ginyu force); however, I can see how that could be subjective opinion, so that's why it's not one of my main points.
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